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Author: Chris Picard | Nov-15-2012 9:23 PM
The web's been buzzing with talk over Jon Spaihts' Prometheus script entitled ALIEN: Engineers which was leaked to us earlier this week. Unfortunately, Fox contacted us requesting that we remove links to the script from our site, but not before some of us got to enjoy the read. I myself, thoroughly enjoyed the script and found it quite interesting and have since posted a small article about it, breaking down some aspects of the script which differed from what we saw in Prometheus.
The write-up doesn't cover every single detail of the script, but mainly just highlights some moments that I found interesting and which significantly differed from Lindelof's re-write. You can have a read via the link below and share your opinions of the script if you got the chance to read it in the Prometheus Forum.
Posted: Nov-16-2012 8:29 AM
I must to confess I never love Lindelof as a screenwriter, I never liked him, RS manages the Sci-Fi better than anyone, but the problem is he need a good writers, Prometheus is visually striking, but the history have many holes.
Posted: Nov-16-2012 12:52 PM
Although I haven't read much of either script just printed them out to be safe but I'm definitely in love with the lines "We crash into a pool beneath. Still a current here... but it calms as the water laps up on a pastoral untouched sand... and now... there, from the pool -- something emerging... A Hand. Pale and new. Fingers outstretched. Hard to tell if they belong to a human or a salamander, but either way... It Is Life."
Would have made the scene a little easier for some to understand, and it doesn't just dwell on the fact that they changed their DNA but rather that they actually created us. Anyways back to reading.
Posted: Nov-16-2012 3:32 PM
I thought some of Spaights draft had some good points but if i was in charge of the Final Draft i think i would have borrowed more from Lindeloffs ideas than Spaights but thats not to say i love Lindeloffs i just prefer the ideas he had but not how they was executed.
I liked how Spaights get things a little more simple as far as the effect of the Scarabs but then the Goo was the same, only things that made the Goo hard to grasp was comments like Shaws about the infection and Davids sometimes to create one must destroy.
I had a theory on the Goo that made perfect sense... but with the release of the Weyland File on the Goo it makes my theory non plausible, while making a easy explanation for the Goo that frankly does not match what we really see happens in the movie.
Posted: Nov-16-2012 3:35 PM
Ultimately i would have combined some ideas from both....
The Holloway Chest Buster Scene would have been great and i would have had that the Chest Buster then infected Shaw and it was through this that Shaw got Pregnant and latter she removed it as per Lindeloffs Script.
But i would not have had Holloway Face Hugged i would have had him infected some how by David.
Posted: Nov-17-2012 11:34 AM
I read his script before Fox took it down. (I read both scripts). While I enjoyed it I agree with the changes Lindelof added.
Posted: Nov-17-2012 4:39 PM
I read and enjoyed both, but what struck me was how central the directors role is to take stories and mold them into something more. Also, I'm vindicated, as Millburn said in Spaihts' script, the spacesuit is " Bulletproof"! His confidence before the Hammerpede explained, per NOOB.
Posted: Nov-17-2012 11:22 PM
I read the script and I'm pissed. Granted, there's a number of things in Spaiths' script that needed changing, ideas I really didn't like, but I would much rather have seen this movie, on the whole, than what we got. I'm Mad...I mean really angry and I don't know what else to say.......
Posted: Nov-18-2012 11:47 AM
Yeah, I'm also mad. After first seeing Prometheus I felt it was a very good yet flawed film and I liked it a lot. But now after reading Spaihts script and going through the material on the iPad app I must say that I question Scotts judgement. There is a LOT of fantastic ideas everywhere. It's just a shame that Neville Pages and Rezards alien designs never where used. When you read Spaihts script (and yes it's not perfect) you really see how theese could have been used. I'm not by any means a professional screenwriter but I can see how scary and potent his vision is. Also the extra scenes on the Blu-ray that explains a lot of the strange things, why this peculiar cut of the movie? And WHY not use the Weta designed Fifield mutation scene... An actor in make up, well. It can't be that Lindelof came in and destroyed it all like many seem to believe, it must have been Scotts vision all along and that is sad. This really could have been a scary and epic thing and I remember long ago reading that Scott wanted to scare the hell out of everyone. To bad it had to end like this, I DO hope a sequel can somehow rescue this but I doubt it...
Posted: Nov-25-2012 7:55 AM
I absolutely LOVED the spaiths draft. But I am confused... I read one script, and there a number of points you guys are saying, such as The ultramorph killing janek (in the one i read glass killed him from the impact) and the one about the hand coming out of a pool. Was there two different spaiths drafts?
Posted: Dec-05-2012 2:00 AM
I feel fortunate to have read both scripts and saturated myself in all the deleted scenes and exended scenes as well as watched the Furious Gods. All of it together helped me to understand aspects of Prometheus that were open for debate. Its too bad Fox had to freak out over the leaked script. To me it made me glad that we got the more nuanced and sophisticated version that we got. Spaihts
s script was fine as a starting point but the personalities of his Vickers and David need a going over. You have to give him credit for inventing them in the first place but Lindelof did improve the overall scope of the film and the final versions of the characters. I think Fox has to get used to the idea that we live in a cyberworld where we are currently allowed access to many things, because the more censorship they insist upon the more freedom we lose. None of what we got to read detracted from the finished product. Rather the reverse.
Posted: Dec-12-2012 9:10 PM
@craigamore - I totally agree with you, after reading the Alien: Engineers script I not only felt like we were cheated out of a real Alien prequel but that we had been falsely lead to believe that there was a lot of well thought-out meaning behind many of the mysteries in the film when there weren't (i.e. why is there a xeno hanging on the wall in the temple? Um cuz the set was already built and we didn't want to change it? No, no, there must be some deeper meaning). So I watched the movie again after reading the script, and it really is a beautiful film, but it would have been so much more satisfying if at the end of all of this craziness we got to witness the set up for the beginning of Alien. I mean, at first they came right out and TOLD us it was a prequel. Then after a while they started saying things like, "oh, it's not LV-426 after all, it's a different planet that's just like it," and "oh, that juggernaut ship you saw is a totally different ship, it just looks like the one from Alien." Well no, those were boldfaced lies, the Prometheus WAS the Magellan - the photos online prove it - and that was definitely LV-426 AND the same juggernaut from Alien. Lindeloff just did a find and replace to remove the Alien prequel elements from the existing script and replace it with, let's face it, some pretty weak alternatives for the xeno, not to mention some unsuccessful plot-patches, such as re-introducing Weyland in the third act for ZERO reason because now he's not into terraforming, he's dying and wants to find everlasting life. "Hey, they've changed the script, somebody slap some old-man makeup on Guy Pearce, stat! You, you'll do, get on it!" Anyone want to kickstart an independent production of Spaights' script? I'll throw in a few bucks.
Posted: Dec-31-2012 4:40 PM
Im all about mystery and science fiction but to me I mean I liked Jon Spaihts script but it showed way too much. If it was a going to be an Alien prequel than they should have shown the Alien but since it technically wasnt it was about their and our makers instead. I am more of a intelliegent life-form fan not a mindless creature fan that has no intentions but to survive with instinct, its cool but to me it loses its flavor like watching a wild discovery with horror in it. I mean no offense to anyone who liked which script and why. We all have our own opinions and some us agree and some of dont. I dont really want Lindelof directing the the nest movie though because now the action and craziness can begin. Lindelof was more like a starter to get the franchise going with mystery and twist and turns. But Spaihts can now join in on the fun now that he is going to be more of a role in the scrpit.
Posted: Jan-02-2013 6:56 AM
From what Chris recently said, there is good evidence according to my understanding that material from the Spaihts script may make it into Paradise in one form or another. So for those who feel cheated by removal of Spaihts material you may still get a chance to see some more. I personally hope they find more writers in addition to Spaihts to round out a well written script. And this time around they need to listen to consulting scientists so that the science and the scientists are more believable.
Posted: Feb-09-2013 9:29 PM
I cannot say that I liked the Spaights script, at all. The final verison of the movie was better, to me. The Spaights version just sounds like Aliens all over again. I like how this gave more of the earlier timeline in the progression of things that happened the Aliens movies. One thing I wish they would have gone with was the CG version of the Fifield "alien". Scarier.
I can only assume that Paradise will show how Shaw and David somehow bring an Alien or more back to the Engineers' planet and possibly cause a war and maybe wipe out the Engineers. Could be interesting!
Posted: Feb-20-2013 2:44 PM
MAYBE it would have been much better IF ..
I´m still surprised that my favourite director Scott gave over so much control over the decisions made in the final production to a quite BAD product in his name..
I´m STILL PISSED.
And I dont dare to hope PARADISE can ´fix´ that.
I mean, Scott has MUCH creditibility to do a fine Prometheus, even based on alousy ancient alien theory, IF he only had good writers .It was ALL THERE..perfect designers, millions of Dollars, producers, actors...
Posted: Apr-04-2013 12:16 PM
Well, since they have chose to focus on the Engineers instead of making an Alien prequel, I say go all the way with it in the next installment. I want to know more about our connection with the Engineers. That means incorporating Earthly history, music, art, and culture ( remember the flute the Engineer started up the orray with? ). Also, real world science is something Ridley said influenced him. There are reasons why aliens would want us gone- earthly minerals that lifeless planets don't have, they could need another planet to live on, as if they were advanced enough for space travel their technology could be thousands of years beyond us, meaning their planet could be dying by then..
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